tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post3342339977290872720..comments2024-03-26T07:37:54.729+00:00Comments on Confessions of a Ci-Devant: September 7th, 1533: The Birth of Elizabeth IGareth Russellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09102113677858015813noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-66046270905727346812013-07-07T07:20:12.131+01:002013-07-07T07:20:12.131+01:00To me, Jane Dormer's comments are the smoking ...To me, Jane Dormer's comments are the smoking gun. She said Anne was not quite 29 years old when she died. She had learned Anne's date of birth from Queen Mary, who certainly was in a position to know. That puts Anne's birth in late May or early June of 1507. Lisbyhttp://lisby.etsy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-40668517726962805462010-09-18T04:43:49.617+01:002010-09-18T04:43:49.617+01:00Gareth
Thank you for explaining about the double w...Gareth<br />Thank you for explaining about the double wedding. I have not come across that in any of my research.<br /><br />I agree that Anne was not born in 1501. Eric Ives and others have taken what Paget said in his paper about her age based on her hand writing out of context.<br />The letter that many are basing the 1501 date on is poorly written and is very hard to read. Paget even said it Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-29592914401532340152010-09-17T17:59:44.212+01:002010-09-17T17:59:44.212+01:00In regards proof that Henry and Anne were married ...In regards proof that Henry and Anne were married in November 1532 rather than January 1533, I should point out that I'm saying that there were two wedding services, rather than either, in accordance with etiquette laid down by Henry's late grandmother, Lady Margaret Beaufort. <br /><br />Edward Hall in his Chronicle of Henry's reign says that the couple were married in Dover on SaintGareth Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09102113677858015813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-46319196268111767232010-09-17T17:01:13.089+01:002010-09-17T17:01:13.089+01:00Agree with everything but Anne's age. She was ...Agree with everything but Anne's age. She was more like to have been born in 1499-1501, so she was most likely in her early thirty's.Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-87771384654224850152010-09-17T15:25:45.904+01:002010-09-17T15:25:45.904+01:00This is a very nicely written article. I love the ...This is a very nicely written article. I love the picture of the baby Elizabeth!<br />I would like to know what proof is there about Henry VIII and Anne having been Married in November?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-57208390058125347382010-09-17T10:40:30.342+01:002010-09-17T10:40:30.342+01:00I too love that top portrait of Elizabeth as it em...I too love that top portrait of Elizabeth as it emphasises her mother's coal black eyes and Elizabeth's slender and very elegant fingers, which she was so proud of.<br />What do you think of Elizabeth, as a monarch and person, Gareth?Claire Ridgwayhttp://www.theanneboleynfiles.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-71132247141098119412010-09-08T02:19:33.883+01:002010-09-08T02:19:33.883+01:00"... it was a way of proving to the English p..."... it was a way of proving to the English people that the Papacy and Catholicism were not, necessarily, one in the same thing and just because England had now severed her ties of loyalty to Rome, it did not necessarily follow that it would therefore become a hard-line Protestant nation. The Pope may be dethroned, but the Host was still in the Tabernacle and the Virgin on her plinth. It wasHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-60453238650257342292010-09-07T23:28:26.078+01:002010-09-07T23:28:26.078+01:00On the topic of Elizabeth's looks, the portrai...On the topic of Elizabeth's looks, the portrait you have included at the top of the post is probably my favorite one of her; she looks quite handsome there, I think.Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-40837291843108933262010-09-07T18:38:04.487+01:002010-09-07T18:38:04.487+01:00Thank you.
And, yes Matterhorn, you're right!...Thank you.<br /><br />And, yes Matterhorn, you're right! I think the actual difference would be between 11 and 12 days, given the change to the calendars, but I could be wrong on the specifics!Gareth Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09102113677858015813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-58071464026848487752010-09-07T18:29:45.606+01:002010-09-07T18:29:45.606+01:00Yes, very interesting indeed, and very well-writte...Yes, very interesting indeed, and very well-written, as always. <br /><br />Oddly enough, September 7 is also the date of birth of another long-reigning monarch, Baudouin I of Belgium (born in 1930). I suppose, though, that the dates would not actually be the same, given the calendar changes in between?Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18230268418171628594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-56422370203666445452010-09-07T18:27:30.850+01:002010-09-07T18:27:30.850+01:00Very interesting... I guess that it must be quite ...Very interesting... I guess that it must be quite difficult to recover a true picture of what people looked like at such a distance in time - especially when they were the subjects of paintings and sculptures etc that were not necessarily commissioned to be accurate. having said that - there is a death mask of Elizabeth wasn't there - I guess that helps a lot. <br /><br />7 September was alsoHannah Stonehamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11139146341592918233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3354677738876576370.post-69125281842377253582010-09-07T17:16:26.556+01:002010-09-07T17:16:26.556+01:00I especially liked the comments on the genetic com...I especially liked the comments on the genetic components of her looks. Very interesting.tubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272003035464034763noreply@blogger.com